Discount levels can vary by country. For example, in Italy, the average initial discount requested by AIFA (Agenzia Italiana del Farmaco) is often ~70% to 75%, while advisors from France mentioned discounts of 15% are common. However, one must consider that the gross prices are different in the two countries, and this does not mean discounts to gross prices in France are insignificant. For instance, in France, the 2023 clawback payment (rebates paid by the industry to the government) was ~€6 billion (~8% pharma market size). Our payers/advisors see no clear end in sight to this growing gross-to-net “dance,” as additional attempts to relieve cost pressures are made with different cost containment approaches.